What are artists’ roles in knowing or making tomorrow? What are alternative ways of knowing our planet? Victoria Sin and Lucia Pietroiusti return to their roots of General Ecology, with conversations recorded at a summit organised by creative sustainability charity Julie's Bicycle. Featuring Alison Tickell, Zadie Xa, Climate Symphony and Cosmo Sheldrake, with new sound pieces from Zadie Xa and Cosmo Sheldrake. Image credit: Zadie Xa, Moon Poetics 4: Courageous Earth Critters and Dangerous Day Dreamers (2020).  This episode is supported by Outset Partners’ Grant and was produced by Katie Callin at Reduced Listening.