Episode number 22 of Darmstadt On Air presents a conversation between choreographer and director Vera Tussing and composer Michael Picknett. They talk about the intersection between composing and choreographing using devising techniques. They specifically refer to one of their latest collaborations – Tactile Quartet(s) –, a dance performance that was realized in collaboration with four dancers and the string quartet Quatuor MP4. The question how creation and curation can be developed in the fluid processes between choreography and music was also part of their conversation.