Marty sits down with Steve Barbour before the first Nakamoto Forum debate to talk about energy, mining, and replacing the US Dollar.

Steve on Twitter: https://twitter.com/SGBarbour
Upstream Data: https://blog.upstreamdata.ca/

7:30 - Bitcoin dev conflict of interest19:18 - Bitcoin reaching maturity21:01 - Russian mining25:37 - Fiat IOUs28:30 - The state of US mining34:25 - Will "Coal" Cole38:09 - Upstream's progress since Steve's last pod47:06 - Hydro is better for portability55:31 - New design59:53 - Is coal the future?1:04:48 - Hydrocarbons debate1:08:33 - Lizard men1:10:57 - Mock the rulers1:19:03 - Fiat dying1:25:01 - Wrapping up


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