Hey Besties! Today, we're taking an out-of-the-box approach to podcast collaborations. Our guest is Anna Van Valin, an independent podcast producer, consultant, and host of the Every Day is a Food Day podcast. Anna is an advocate for cross-media promotions, which is a different way to go about the whole promo swap strategy. In this episode, she shares how she got started, some great case studies, and tips for pitching brands for this type of collaboration. Plus, we discuss whether Instagram Reels are worth it for indie podcasters.* Connect with Anna @annavanvalin on Twitter and Instagram.* Check out Anna’s podcast, Every Day is a Food Day.* Sign up for my Pandemic University Grow Your Show and Make Money Podcasting One-Day Intensive.Here’s a link to the TRANSCRIPT.If you missed the last episode, check out From Zero to 100K Real Quick: How Mina AF Engaged Mina Starsiak Hawk’s Existing Audience with Producer Megan Hayward.Sign up for the Podcast Bestie newsletter here: https://podcastbestie.substack.com/welcomeThanks to Michael Castañeda for mixing and mastering this episode. Follow him on Twitter and Instagram @plasticaudio.A big thanks to our BFF for sponsoring this episode:* mowPod is an effective, targeted way to promote your show. It's already trusted by industry giants like Conde Nast, iHeartMedia, and HubSpot Podcast Network, and that's because it works. But mowPod isn’t just for the big guys — mowPod Boost is perfect for indie podcasters. It’s actually been my favorite paid advertising experiment to date, and you can try it for just $100. Plus, if you are a Bestie, you get 10% off with this link: https://boost.mowpod.com/?referrer=podcastbestie. Try it, and let me know what you think!If you want to sponsor a future newsletter AND episode, you can purchase your ad spot here.I’ve also got a FREE promo opportunity for the Besties: Leave a five-star rating with a review on Apple Podcasts, email me a screenshot with your name and the name of your podcast, and you’ll get a free shout-out on the next episode.So… ROLL CALL! ?What are YOUR favorite software tools for staying organized and making great podcasts?Follow me @courtneykocak on Twitter and Instagram. For more, check out my website courtneykocak.com.? Wanna advertise on Podcast Bestie? Visit podcastbestie.com/advertise for info about offerings and rates. Get full access to Podcast Bestie at podcastbestie.substack.com/subscribe