This episode, hosted by Brian Hutchison, PhD Principal of Global Career Guy and a former NCDA Board member, features a conversation about the importance of career development in school counseling with Associate Professor of Counseling, Grace Wambu, EdD, LAC, NCC, and Assistant Professor of School Counseling, Katy Leigh-Osroosh, PhD, NCC. They share ways that school counselors can advocate for career development work and ideas for creating energy around career development in schools at all levels. Grace and Katy also share their experiences and research in working with diverse student populations, to include African immigrants and Indigenous students in the U.S. Brian, Grace, and Katy are three co-authors of the recently published 12th edition of the high school textbook, School to Career.