We have a conversation with Jake Rudin, co-author of the recently published book titled "Out of Architecture" to discuss the need for architects to appropriately value themselves and their skills to create a more positive and sustainable profession, or to leave it altogether for something else. We talk about the lack of leadership training, the importance of designing our businesses, and the value of architects as problem solvers in architecture firms and adjacent industries.About JakeJake is a strategic thinker and designer with a decade of experience in building things from the ground up. He currently leads teams at Adidas in Computational Design, Digital Technologies, and Pattern Engineering. He also runs Out of Architecture, a career consulting firm helping designers apply their incredible talents in untraditional ways.Episode LinksOut of Architecture websiteOut of Architecture: The Value of Architects Beyond Traditional Practice (Amazon)Out of Architecture on LinkedInOut of Architecture on InstagramJake on LinkedInTangents podcast