Guest: Anoosh Saboori, former Product Manager at Google Cloud Topics: We had zero trust episodes before and definitions vary! When we say zero trust, what do we mean?   What about zero trust for workloads in production? When you say “workload,” what do you mean? What is BeyondProd, for those that are unfamiliar with it? And how is this different from BeyondCorp?  How has BeyondProd actually been implemented at Google?   What threats does it help with? Is this real threats or compliance? Why is now a good time to be thinking about zero trust for production systems?  Companies have many security tools deployed, including microsegmentation and firewalls, how does this toolset fit? Does it replace anything they have deployed? Resources: BeyondProd papers “Zero Trust: Fast Forward from 2010 to 2021” (ep8) “Gathering Data for Zero Trust” (ep4) “Google Workspace Security: from Threats to Zero Trust” (ep99) “Zero Trust: So Easy Even a Government Can Do It?” (ep59) “Is This Binary Legit? How Google Uses Binary Authorization and Code Provenance” (ep66)