In this week’s episode of Board Gaming with Education, Dustin is joined by co-host Dave Eng and guest Terry Pearce to discuss the differences and similarities between game-based learning and gamification in both the corporate world and the education world. Join Dustin, Terry, and Dave on this discussion of board games for learning. Episode Topics Board Gaming with Education Introduction: GBL Conference - 00:00 Welcome Dave Back to the Show - 1:01 Who is Terry Pearce? - 3:09 Farming the Discussion - 7:26 ROI (Return on Investment) - 9:53 Networking and Sharing within the Field of Games for Learning - 18:28 Investing in Game-Based Learning and Gamification - 24:02 What Can Educators Learn from the Corporate World? - 26:32 Dave Rejoins the Conversation - 31:40 Dustin, Dave, and Terry play Wits & Wagers - 38:32 Games/Books from this Episode [Links include games in our Board Gaming with Education Store or Amazon affiliate links]: The Art of Game Design: A Book of Lenses The Gamification of Learning and Instruction: Game-based Methods and Strategies for Training and Education by Karl Kapp Actionable Gamification: Beyond Points, Badges and Leaderboards by Yu-Kai Chou Even Ninja Monkeys Like to Play: Unicorn Edition by Andrzej Marczewski More content from Andrzej Marczewski including the Design Element Cards Check out our board game store for a curated collection of board games for learning at-home and in the classroom: https://www.boardgamingwitheducation.com Thank you to Purple Planet Music for the wonderful contribution of their song "Retro Gamer" for our Interview Segment. This song can be found in full on this music archive. Also, thank you to Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) for his creative commons 4.0 contribution of "Getting it Done" for our Thumbs Up, Thumbs Down Rapid Fire Round. Always be sure to check out our show notes (website blog post) to read a recap of the episode topics and games mentioned in the episode. https://www.boardgamingwitheducation.com/terry-pearce