This week I spoke with Michelle and Wallis, hosts of The Twelfth House and Good For U(?) podcasts. They had me on a few months ago and we had such a great conversation that I asked if we could talk more on this one. Michelle and I have been friends for ages, she’s the founder of Holisticism. Wallis joined the team a few years ago, and she, like Michelle, is so smart and cool as you’ll hear. We talk about the beginning days of Holisticism, a space that bridges the gap between the mystic and the realistic to make well-being more accessible to more people. We covered how it has expanded, including how they’ve built their team, advice for management, hiring, non-coercive marketing, failure, curation vs creation, prioritization as “squiggly brained" people, and podcasting as a medium (they both used the Podcast Kit to start their shows). And then we get into regret, string theory, breakups, collapsing timelines, undefined friendships, and much more. Let us know if you listen. Show Notes:- The Podcast Kit that we talk about (Michelle & Wallis were students) is now 50% off with code SPRING - Holisticism on the Web | Instagram- Find Michelle & Wallis on Instagram- Find me: @letitouttt or I'm @katiedalebout- Christy Harrison's new podcast: Rethinking Wellness- SPONSOR This episode is sponsored by Cured Nutrition: get 20% your first order with code letitout- Our newsletter to get show notes + essays by me, recs, etc.- A few spots in the Creative Clinic: more info here or email me (katie@letitouttt.com) : ) - For book recs, our bookshelf here - and I made a shop  with recs ...with shelves for guests - the  Let It Out Kits: are self-study workshops for personal growing based on all I've ever learned and am learning. Thanks so much for listening to this podcast.