Episode 4
Keeping an open perspective: Kat & Scott explain how they shifted the focus from captive elephants not only in South America, but globally, thus leading to the founding of GSE.
While replicating TES (which Scott co-founded) might have seemed an obvious choice, other options like a halfway home in South America with the final destination in Cambodia were also considered before settling on Brazil, as 35 of the 50 captive elephants were located here. Listen to two funny and interesting stories of the many properties Scott & Kat looked at during their 30-day stay in Brazil. Back home in the US, it soon becomes clear that finalizing land deals via emails and phone calls was not going to work. A higher level of commitment was necessary, and their promise to Ramba was still waiting to be fulfilled.
The episode transcript can be found here.

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