Today I sit down with John Perlin, author of the book A Forest Journey: The Role of Trees in the Fate of Civilization. This book was originally published in 1989, but is gearing up for a new edition set to release later this month. We talk in depth on what has changed since the last publication, and (spoilers) it's a lot. Hear some history on how much our world is shaped by our destruction of woodlands, what we needed all that material for, and what this pattern spells for our future. The new edition of A Forest Journey can be found at patagonia.com/shop/books, or wherever you buy your books.This episode contains a condensed version of my conversation with John Perlin. To hear the full, hour-plus-long unedited discussion, subscribe to my Patreon at patreon.com/MyFavoriteTrees.Music is by Academy Garden. Cover art is by @boomerangbrit on Instagram. Follow me on Facebook and Twitter @MyFavoriteTrees and on Instagram @treepodcast.