Thomas has a new, most magnificent book out, Quilt Out Loud: Activism, Language and the Art of Quilting (C&T Publishing, 2023), available at https://amzn.to/3KkTDVP.The last time we spoke to Thomas in 2019, he was discussing his previous book, Why We Quilt. Listen to that podcast at, https://www.spreaker.com/episode/19599876. He discusses the process of writing this book, his life during the Pandemic, and his thoughts on the beauty he makes with activism messaging. He also talks about the influence of punk on his thoughts and process, and even the look of the book! Thomas Knauer holds Masters of Fine Art from both Ohio University and the Cranbrook Academy of art. Before he started designing fabric and quilts he was a professor of art and design at Drake University and the State University of New York. He began sewing in 2010 after leaving academia due to health concerns, and soon thereafter sat down at a sewing machine for the first time to make his wee daughter a dress. Since then he has designed six fabric collections for Andover Fabrics, writes an ongoing column for Quilters Newsletter, has published quilts in numerous magazines, and is exhibiting in quilt shows and museums. But in the end he loves making things for his daughter and new son the best. For more about Thomas, go to https://www.thomasknauersews.com/.