Getting down and dirty with liberation, Spring Washam and Lama Rod Owens explore joyfulness and the labor of freedom.Additional content from this episode: Black & BuddhistThis podcast is sponsored by BetterHelp. Click to receive 10% off your first month with your own licensed professional therapist: betterhelp.com/beherenow"I think Joy helps to smooth the edges of our anxiety around liberation work and it propels it at the same time." - Lama Rod OwensSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.