Whether it's a Spiders roster transplanted to St. Louis and a nickname abandoned or how they're perched together in the middling middle of the majors, Cleveland and the Cardinals have an intertwined baseball history (and present) beyond their rare series against each other. Anthony Castrovince, MLB.com national baseball columnist and MLB Network contributor, joins the Best Podcast in Baseball to discuss the most significant and inevitable news in his hometown of Cleveland: The ball club has a new name. The Cleveland Guardians will debut in 2022. Castrovince talks with St. Louis Post-Dispatch baseball writer Derrick Goold about Cleveland's name change, about his advocacy of the Spiders, about the modern Cardinals getting their start when the Spiders moved to St. Louis (kind of), and how much the Cardinals and future Guardians have in common -- from an ability to develop pitching to a need to develop a hitter to that dangerous, uncomfortable limbo teams find themselves in these days when they win just enough to be good but never enough to be great. The Best Podcast in Baseball, sponsored by Closets by Design of St. Louis, is a production of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, StlToday.com, and Derrick Goold. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.