Steve Leder is the Senior Rabbi of Wilshire Boulevard Temple in Los Angeles. He joined Katherine to discuss how difficult times makes us each more so, and what you have to do to earn forgiveness.You can get a copy of Katherine's book, The Gift of Forgiveness, wherever books are sold.Photo by Johanna BrinckmanThis week, the Gift of Forgiveness is sponsored by:Framebridge - Go to Framebridge.com and use promo code FORGIVE to save an additional 15% off your first order.Vital Farms - Head to VitalFarms.com to see where your eggs come from. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices