Mark Herschberg, a tech startup veteran, author of the book The Career Toolkit: Essential Skils for Success That No One Taught You, and MIT professor, set a goal of appearing on 150 podcasts. He pitched over 2000 shows and ended up on close to 350 shows. Mark did it through volume, which is a different strategy than Dave typically preaches. Dave and Mark get together to share their insights to discuss the pet peeves of guests and hosts to uncover the most efficient way to pitch yourself to shows.  "Focus on how you're delivering value to the audience. If your pitch starts out with the word 'I' too many times in the first paragraph, know what you offer and get to the point - delivering value to the audience is key!" JOIN THE SCHOOL OF PODCASTING COMMUNITY Are you looking to start your own podcast but don't know where to begin? Look no further than the School of Podcasting. Our comprehensive online courses and one-on-one coaching will teach you everything you need to know, from equipment and editing to marketing and monetization. With our proven methods and expert instructors, you'll be creating high-quality, engaging content in no time. Say goodbye to the frustration and uncertainty, and hello to a successful podcasting career with the School of Podcasting. Join worry-free with our 30-day money-back guarantee. Save using this link www.schoolofpodcasting.com/listener   What You Will Learn Today The strategies that Mark uses to make it easy to say YES to having him on your show. How letting your guest know who they are talking to always leads to a better interview. Make your guest comfortable by letting them know what to expect (audio, video, both?). How having example questions makes connecting your expertise to your audience easier. The two questions every guest should ask at the end of the interview What a guest needs to make it easy to share Mark (and Dave) use Podmatch, PodcastGuest and other resources. For a full list, get the PDF Cheat Sheet Here. QUESTION OF THE MONTH This month's question is from Jacob from the Old Men - New Games. When a host has English as a second language and may occasionally mess up a word or two, Is that a no go? Do you listen, or immediately back out? Leave Your Answer at  www.schoolofpodcasting.com/question Deadline is 2/24/23  Where I Will Be? I look forward to seeing you all; please come up and say hi. To see my full itinerary, go to schoolofpodcasting.com/where Other Episodes Mentioned In This Episode 20 resources to Help You Find Guests/Hosts Less Annoying CRM The Ultimate Guide to Hosting and Guesting Podcast Interviews. Editing the Boring Out of Your Podcast 11 Steps I Took to Create a WOW Interview How to Get Booked on Podcasts: Figuring Out Who and How to Pirch with Kristin Molenaar Be A Guest Book a Guest Podmatch (a “Dating Service” for podcasters). Mark Herschberg: thecareertoolkitbook.com and the Brain Bump App Dave: schoolofpodcasting.com Become a School of Podcasting Affiliate Go to schoolofpodcasting.com/affiliates and sign up. When someone signs up using your link, you earn a commission. That commission is paid every month they stay subscribed. Start Earning Today  Follow the Show and Never Miss an Episode on: Apple - Google - Spotify - Amazon Check out New Podcast Apps for apps to stream bitcoin to podcasters. Did You Get Value From This Episode? Enjoy the Show? Buy Dave a Coffee and give some of that value back.