Two big interviews on this episode of the pod. First, it's been 25 years since the debut of Dawson's Creek, and Katie Holmes is still doing amazing work. She's chatting with Paul Wontorek about her return to the New York City stage in The Wanderers. Plus, there is life after Romeo. Juliet is living her best life in the pop concert musical spectacular, & Juliet. Tamsen catches up with one of that show's stars, Paolo Szot.