The developer community can be highly opinionated. We find our favorite tools and fiercely support them because they help us meet our goals. 
Tailwind has been polarizing since it launched in 2017. Some developers swear by it, claiming it makes their code cleaner while others think it’s a waste of time. The State of JS results are in and they reveal that Ember is still lagging behind in retention, interest, usage, and awareness compared to other frameworks. Chuck and Robbie agree that it doesn't really matter what framework you use, as long as you are productive and have a reusable, understandable way of working.
In this episode, Robbie and Chuck talk about the polarizing debates in the developer community surrounding Tailwind CSS on Twitter, the results of the 2023 State of JS survey, and their favorite shows.

Key Takeaways

[01:33] - A whiskey review - Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend.

[11:17] - Recent Tailwind wars on Twitter.

[20:03] - Chuck and Robbie review the State of JS survey.

[44:50] - How Chuck and Robbie enjoyed their holiday.


Quotes
[14:29] - “I started back in the day, and you did inline styles with tables to make your Photoshop slices work out, you know what I mean? Couldn't get any uglier than that.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[19:44] - “Sometimes you just don't get to win all the battles. That's just part of software engineering.” ~ Chuck Carpenter
[27:10] - “I think in general, everything is becoming there's less resistance on all fronts. Like you don't have to have a CS degree, whereas they might have looked at that before.” Robbie Wagner

Links

Warner Bros.

Looney Tunes

Sour Patch Kids

State of JS

Tailwind

Twitter

Wolves X Undeated Signature Blend

Undefeated

Willett Distillery

Sam Selikoff

Wes Bos

Vim

Craftsman

DeWalt

React

Nuxt PWA

The Hacker News

Crayon

Ember

Vue

Next.js

Vite

Vitest

ESBuild

Playwright

PNPM

Svelte

Facebook

NPM

Cypress

Webpack

Hipster Ponto Tech

Dev.To

Soft Skills Engineering

Angular Plus Show

The Walking Dead

Gone With the Wind

Law and Order: SVU

The Vow

White Lotus

HBO Max

The Witcher

Nintendo Switch

Gwent

Zelda

Harry Potter: Hogwarts Legacy

Universal Studios

EPL Fan Fest

FIFA: World Cup Qatar 2022


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Robbie Wagner

Chuck Carpenter

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