Building products is hard. And devs can often feel hamstrung by competing priorities. The battle between revenue and quality is ever-present and ongoing. But is it possible to achieve both? 
In this episode, Chuck and Robbie discuss some of their frustrations with the tech companies and tech stacks in the modern era, supporting open source projects, and some great TV shows they have been enjoying.

Key Takeaways

[01:27] - A whiskey review - Barrell Dovetail Whiskey.

[08:00] - Why tech companies are reluctant to upgrade dependencies.

[18:08] - The importance of supporting open source projects.

[30:45] - Why React dominates the landscape.

[43:13] - Chuck and Robbie discuss TV shows.

[49:36] - Chuck’s weekend plans with family.

[54:29] - Chuck’s Korean fried chicken experience.


Quotes
[10:48] - “I feel like we've done all of this stuff to be like, let's get everyone Scrum certified, and let's do this whole process. And people really bought into that, and it does not help them.” ~ @rwwagner90
[12:59] - “You read the books. You see the blogs. You get experts to come in and train your teams, and you're still kind of struggling to get it right. But then we keep getting told there's a right way. Who is doing it right?” ~ @CharlesWthe3rd
[25:27] - “I think in a perfect world, what I would love to see happen is companies kind of take frameworks under their wing and be like, look, we realize how much work you're doing. We realize there are not that many people doing it. Here are these two people we just hired. Teach them the thing that no one knows so we can increase the buzz factor here and at the same time, instead of just telling you to teach them, here's $500,000. Do whatever you think makes the framework better.” ~ @rwwagner90

Links

Barrell Dovetail Whiskey

MGP

Dr Pepper

Cherry Coca Cola

George Dickel Tenessee Whiskey

Jack Daniels Distillery

Green Brier Distillery

Ember

Next.js

GitHub

NPM

Melaine Sumner

Sindre Sorhus

Chris Manson

Microsoft

Jest

Facebook

Vitest

Faker 

Java Script

Hacker News

Reddit

Sqwok

jQuery

LESS

Sass

Coffee Script

TypeScrpit

Lodash

Shop Talk

Electro-Voice

PHP

Angular CLI

Ember CLI

Kent C Dodds

Remix

Solid

Astro

Redwood

Old Man

Hulu

Jeff Bridges

Sally Fields

Arnold Schwarzenegger

The Big Lebowski 

Severance

Adam Scott

Apple TV

Apple

Big Little Lies

Reese Witherspoon

Loot

Maya Rudolph

Jeff Bezos

Sea World

Lego Land

McDonald’s

Bonchon

In-N-Out


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Chuck Carpenter

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