Joff Elphick speaks to The Times garden writer Stephen Anderton about his book 'Lives of the Great Gardeners'. They talk about Charles Jencks and The Garden of Cosmic Speculation, Alexander Reford from Les Jardins de Metis (Reford Gardens), Lawrence Johnston,Hidcote, and Vita Sackville-West and Sissinghurst. They talk too about Stephen's own garden in Wales. Geoff Carr joins Joff in 'The Long Border' and P.R. team discuss a favourite item in a Product Review. It's all a secret until the recording starts. Joff decides he must have this item. But what's it called and where can you get it? Help? Joff finishes by going 'off piste' after an enquiry about his Wildlife Sound Recording. A Nightingale signs off the show.