Dunn Street founder Stephen Donnelly sat down with ACTU Assistant Secretary Liam O'Brien for an in-depth conversation about the trade union movement.Liam spoke about his entry into the labour movement and his time as a union organiser with the Australian Workers Union. He discussed the Change the Rules campaign and the recent federal election campaign; as well as the future of organising and new approaches being adopted by unions to build power in the workplace.They also discuss the Democratic primaries and may or may not preview the 2019 Tour de France.The presenting sponsor of Socially Democratic is Dunn Street. For more information on how Dunn Street can help organise to build winning campaigns in your community or organisation and make the world a better place, look us up at: dunnstreet.com.au