Today, the Safari heads back to Akron, Ohio, for a conversation with two friends of the pod: Elena and Lisa! Elena is the Marking and PR Manager of the Akron Zoo, and we spend about a half hour talking about the ins and outs of that job, how impactful it can be, how hurtful trolls can be, and why her and I have cracked "the code." Then, after that, we head into the red panda habitat with keeper Lisa and Lulu the red panda, for a training session and lots of red panda facts! EPISODE LINKS: akronzoo.org @akronzoo on socials ROSSIFARI LINKS: patreon.com/rossifari for bonus audio from this and other episodes rossifari.com @rossifari on socials @rossifaripod on TikTok