Villains, antagonists, and anti-heroes are the topic of the day. Austin and Amanda critically run through a roster of their favorite queer or queer-coded villains in media. Cartoonish homophobia and transphobia, coded Disney villains, the lack of female villains, how queer villains are seen as especially evil for their sexuality, redemption stories, how a main character can be the antagonist of their own story, and bisexual murder pits are all discussed.

Amanda has a revelation about how straight people consume media while discussing Lex from *Smallville,* Austin recounts the suffering he endured while watching *Downton Abbey* for Thomas Barrow, and the two roll around in their general love of villainy.