In the conversation that Kevin Mark Low and I had with the 5 architecture graduates, Gan (2021) gave his design thesis views at the end. He said: "So the problem is when the world didn't give chances for us, they didn't prepare the environment, we go and seek it." He also talked about why the Universiti Malaya campus design is fascinating as all the projects relate to each. Unfortunately, the original tutors could not work with the students after establishing the alternative master plan ended by the 7th week, and another set of tutors was instructed to do so. This episode is my explanation and commentary on what Gan had mentioned. I would not have done this commentary if Gan had not mentioned this. It is for the sole purpose of explaining things contextually so that the audience can understand better the conversation. This is a write-up (blog post) based on this podcast episode.©️Talk Architecture 2022, Author: Naziaty Mohd Yaacob. Photo (artwork): Site visit of Universiti Malaya campus on July 2020 by Unit 2, led by Kevin, Naziaty, and Lisa with the students.Support the show