In this latest In Conversation episode of the Maritime Podcast Global Shipping Business Network (GSBN) CEO, Bertrand Chen, talks with Seatrade Maritime News Editor, Marcus Hand.The conversation with Bertrand explores the challenges to the digitalisation of shipping processes and how the pandemic has helped provide a catalyst in the move away from paper.He also explains why he sees GSBN’s independent, “not for profitable” model as a key differentiator with other digitalisation initiatives in shipping over the last 20 years.The podcast also discusses the launch of GSBN’s first product Cargo Release, and Marcus quizzes Bertrand on what is to come in the future for GSBN.