Is gardening in the ground overrated? That's not exactly what Joel Karsten is saying in his new book, Straw Bale Solutions, but he does offer a "Plan B" if you have nasty soil...or none at all! Half a million people have started growing veggies and ornamental plants in straw bales since he started promoting his technique about a decade ago. Listen to Mike and Peggy's conversation with Joel and see if it's right for you.Catalyst 360: Health, Wellness & Performance!Your trusted resource for engaging, evidence-based health, wellness & performanceListen on: Apple Podcasts   SpotifyPlease check out our TikTok @official_greendivas ; of course follow us on instagram @TheGreenDivas ; FaceBook @GreenDivas ; and YouTube