This was a wide-ranging conversation.We talked about mIRC WWE roleplays, the impossibility of creating a genealogy of bodybuilding forums, how trolling evolved from Usenet to Twitter, the implicit similarities between Aimee Terese and Zyzz, why the digital invites body modification, male-to-male transsexuals, and the lasting impact of what the New York Times’ once dubbed “the male fitness internet.”Read Oliver’s EXCELLENT reporting here:The Unheard History of Bodybuilding ForumsSteroid SolidarityMuscle, Smoke, MirrorsThe Life of a Jacked Guy in 2019How Selfies and Social Media Shaped Modern BodybuildingWhat Could Have Triggered Elliot Rodger?Books referenced:Muscle, Smoke, and Mirrors by Randy RoachMuscle: Confessions of an Unlikely Bodybuilder by Sam FussellTheme: I Should Have Walked Away by KAAZE