In this podcast, Dr. Nathan Stall and Dr. Andrew Costa discuss the results of their research on the risk of outbreaks and deaths from COVID-19 in long-term care homes in Ontario by for-profit or not-for-profit status. Dr. Nathan Stall is a geriatrician at Sinai Health System and a research fellow at Women's College Research Institute. He is also completing a PhD in clinical epidemiology and health care research at the University of Toronto.Dr. Andrew Costa is an associate professor and holds a research chair in clinical epidemiology and aging at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario. He is also research director in the St. Joseph's health system.The research article they authored is published in CMAJ: www.cmaj.ca/lookup/doi/10.1503/cmaj.201197Podcast transcript: https://www.cmaj.ca/transcript-201197-----------------------------------This podcast episode is brought to you by Shingrix. Learn more at:www.shingrix.ca/en-ca/index.html-----------------------------------This episode is brought to you by Dr. Bill. Dr. Bill makes medical billing easy, fast, and pain free. Spend your time on patient care, let us handle billing for you. Dr. Bill is now available for free. Visit www.dr-bill.ca and get started today.-----------------------------------Subscribe to CMAJ Podcasts on Apple Podcasts or your favourite podcast app. You can also follow us directly on our SoundCloud page or you can visit www.cmaj.ca/page/multimedia/podcasts.