The ocean makes up 70% of our planet’s surface and yet there’s no comprehensive framework to govern things like resource extraction and conservation in the high seas. In this episode, we discuss a deal that has been on the United Nations' table for over 20 years and needs an agreement on how to protect and manage areas beyond national jurisdiction. Will the deal make richer countries richer and the poorer poorer? Can we agree on how to govern our seas? To answer these and many other questions, we invited two experts: Alice Vadrot, a political scientist specialised in environmental policies at the University of Vienna, and Julian Jackson, head of the Pew Charitable Trusts European Campaign to protect ocean life on the high seas.At the end of this episode you’ll hear an incredible story from Norwegian football player and environmental activist Morten Thorsby about his favourite marine animal. Hosted by Jeremy Wilks.  Produced by Naira Davlashyan and Natalia Oelsner.  Editing is by Lory Martinez, Chiara Santella and Luis Lopez from Studio Ochenta.  The theme music is by Gabriel Dalmasso.  Our editor-in-chief is Sophie Claudet.  For more from Alice Vadrot click here.  For more on Julian Jackson’s work click here.  To see more of Morten Thorsby’s initiative We Play Green visit https://www.weplaygreen.com/Ocean Calls is made possible by the European Commission's DG MARE. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.