Chris and Andy talk briefly about this latest episode of 'Andor' and the way the previous episodes have built up to the prison break (1:00). Then, they are joined for a second time by 'Andor' creator Tony Gilroy to talk about how he conceptualized the prison (19:30), and how he tries to put his actors in the best positions to succeed (39:07).

Hosts: Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald
Guest: Tony Gilroy
Producer: Kaya McMullen
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