In the second half of our conversation with Jeffrey Michael Austin, we discuss their first ever artwork, how language factors into their practice, the persistent validity of creating art objects, the way art can bring a person into the present, the magic of mirrors, and using fun as a Trojan horse. Jeffrey Michael Austin (b. 1988) is a multidisciplinary artist and musician based in Chicago. Their work has been exhibited nationally and internationally, with recent and forthcoming solo exhibitions at Chicago Art Department, Heaven Gallery Chicago, Bert Green Fine Art (Chicago) and The Luminary (St. Louis, MO). Austin also composes, performs and produces all musical scores for Growing Concerns Poetry Collective, whose performance venues include The Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago, The Art Institute of Chicago, The Steppenwolf Theatre, NPR Tiny Desk Tour and the Smart Museum of Art. Austin studied at Columbia College Chicago and the Burren College of Art in Ireland before receiving their BFA from The School of the Art Institute of Chicago in 2014. Links: TLPS: A Group NFT Exhibition at Lydian Stater Outro Music: Careful by Daisy Days