What sets doers apart from dreamers? How do you know if you should take the leap and turn your artistic passion into a business? Ilana Griffo & Katie Johnson, artists, published authors and co-owners behind Goodtype join Nicole for a conversation all about what it takes to make a living from your art. They talk about how to know if it's time to quit your job, taking calculated risks, testing the market, sacrifices they had to make and more.