This week, Bill Nye joins the podcast to talk about the importance of sticking to science when it comes to handling the current pandemic and understanding how to address the climate crisis. We discuss his podcast Science Rules! with Bill Nye, how he became passionate about climate issues, what he thinks of social media, battling science skeptics, and that amazing appearance on Last Week Tonight with John Oliver.  Then, Wawu Gatheru joins the show to talk about her piece in VICE, "It's Time for Environmental Studies to Own Up to Erasing Black People." She tells us how environmental scholarship often excludes Black people, what a better climate and environmental movement need, and how we should fight against Black criminalization in nature.  Co-hosts Ty Benefiel and Brock Benefiel also discuss Emily Atkin's conversation with Jamie Margolin and former Gov. John Kasich and Hiroko Tabuchi's piece "Fracking Firms Fail, Rewarding Executives and Raising Climate Fears."  As always, follow us @climatepod on Twitter and email us at theclimatepod@gmail.com. Our music is "Gotta Get Up" by The Passion Hifi, check out his music at thepassionhifi.com. Rate, review and subscribe to this podcast on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, and more! Subscribe to our new YouTube channel! Thank you to our sponsor Hero Power. Learn more about Hero Power's nationwide Solar Share program.