This week, we discuss the underwhelming results at COP25, as the World Wildlife Fund's Vanessa Perez-Cirera joins the show to talk about her experience in Madrid and where she feels the summit fell short. An incredibly insightful and informative discussion.  Then, Rob Bilott, author of "Exposure" and the real-life inspiration for the film "Dark Waters," talks to us about the dangers of "forever chemicals" and his years-long legal battle against polluting corporations. How did this happen? What do we do now? Rob helps us better understand the issue. This is a great conversation with a true environmental hero.  This episode was sponsored by Hero Power, Chicago's newest 100% renewable energy option that provides affordable, reliable electricity to Illinois residents at the same price as ComEd. Learn more at myheropower.com. As always, follow us @climatepod on Twitter and email us at theclimatepod@gmail.com. Our music is "Gotta Get Up" by The Passion Hifi, check out his music at thepassionhifi.com. Rate, review and subscribe to this podcast on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, and more! Follow Rob Bilott on Twitter Follow Vanessa Perez-Cirera on Twitter Further Reading/Action: COP25: Key outcomes agreed at the UN climate talks in Madrid Get Rob Bilott's book "Exposure" https://www.amazon.com/Exposure-Be-Confirmed/dp/1501172816 Learn more about "Fight Forever Chemicals" here Learn more about the World Wildlife Fund here