Keith sits down with Toby Morrel to discuss growing up in South Carolina, discovering the underground music scene, the formation of Emery, the band's move to Seattle, getting established as a band, dealing with fan backlash, the band's latest LP "Rub Some Dirt On It", Toby's podcast "It's All Over" and more. Guest co-host: Jason Zeimet of Unoriginal Vinyl. Jason details the in-depth work he does with bands to help create their vinyl packaging and shares stories of working with Emery, Zao and others.