We've often talked on this show about how few people actively seek out a career in learning and development. So, how exactly did we end up here?  This week on the podcast, Ross D, Ross G and James are joined by Richard Dawson of Virgin Trains and Jilly Julian of Horwich Farrelly to share their origin stories.  We discuss: our professional backgrounds the challenges of getting started in L&D the qualities that make someone suited to a role in L&D If you'd like to get in touch with us about any of the things we've said on this show, you can tweet @ross__dickie, @RossGarnerGP, @JamesMcLuckie, @dawsonrichards and @JillyTats. You can also tweet @GoodPractice or @GoodPracticeAUS. To find out more about what we do, visit goodpractice.com. FREE Difficult Conversations Bundle: Breeze through your next difficult conversation with ease by downloading your FREE bundle of resources: http://www2.goodpractice.com/dcpodcast You can find out more about Mary Anning here: http://www.lymeregis.org/mary-anning.aspx The book Ross G mentioned is I Remember Nothing by Nora Ephron. You can find all the episodes of The Allusionist at https://www.theallusionist.org/