Let’s all be honest about something, we are all friends here… How many have you heard other people say (or even heard yourself saying), “it would be better if we argued less” or even “things are going so well lately as we have not argued at all”?  However is this really the goal, should relationships be about NOT getting into disagreement, arguments or conflicts? Well NOT to this couple. In this episode we interview life and business partners CrisMarie Campbell and Susan Clarke, co-founders of Thrive Inc. They’ve spent 20 years helping men, women, couples, and teams to resolve difficult conflicts and create strong, thriving relationships. They’ve written two books: The Beauty of Conflict and The Beauty of Conflict for Couples. They do workshops on conflict resolution, communication, and teamwork at Fortune 100 companies like Microsoft and the Gates Foundation.  In this episode you will learn that avoiding conflict or not having conflict at all is NOT the goal as conflict can be beautiful, have you be more connected, and be your true self! You will have their powerful 5-5-5 rules for conflicts as well as the most effective ways to have your conflicts better your relationship before, during, and after. All leaving you feeling confident and at ease about any conflict that arises in your relationship, because you will have the tools to use it to your advantage.    Questions asked in this interview In your book, The Beauty of Conflict for Couples, you argue that the key to a lasting relationship isn’t romance - it’s conflict. Tell us more about that.  How do you define conflict, what is it really? What would you say to a couples that says “we never argue or fight?” What are the unhealthy ways to be in a conflict? In your book, The Beauty of Conflict for Couples, you mention that many of the women you’ve worked with have worried that they’ve married the wrong person. What has them say that and how do you respond?  What do you do to forgive yourself in the heat of a conflict?    Quotes: “Conflict isn’t something to fear or avoid. When handled the right way, conflict can unlock fresh ideas, build team trust, and create great results.” “The more you are you, the juicer the relationship will be”   Connect More With The Guests: Thrive Coaching & Consulting  Free chapter of their book: The Beauty of Conflict for Couples   Empowered Couples resources: Follow us on Instagram Tour the Empowered Couples University: