Lil Nas X of the country/trap song, Old Town Road was able to break the record for longest running #1 song on the billboard charts. (It’s been there since early April.) Yet billboard has denied the song from the country chart. We’ll hear what race might have to do with that. We'll also hear what has made the song a hit. Cherry Glazerr will talk about her songwriting process and John Van Deusen will talk about how issues with depression, the church and social media influenced the songs on his latest album.Support the show: https://www.kexp.org/sound/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.