Olivia Troye is a career national security expert whose professional life was upended in August of 2020 when she resigned from her White House post and began to speak out against the former administration. Along the way, Olivia happened to become good friends with Joe Walsh. In this conversation, the two talk about her time in the White House (she's served in three administrations), how you have to be wired to make it as a career national security professional, whether ambition is blinding today's Republicans, and more.