Subscribe to The Realignment to access our exclusive Q&A episodes and support the show: https://realignment.supercast.com/.Geoffrey's Testimony: https://lincolnpolicy.org/2022/testimony-of-geoffrey-cain-to-the-u-s-senate-committee-on-homeland-security-and-governmental-affairs/REALIGNMENT NEWSLETTER: https://therealignment.substack.com/BOOKSHOP: https://bookshop.org/shop/therealignmentEmail us at: realignmentpod@gmail.comGeoffrey Cain, Lincoln Network Senior Fellow in the FACET program and author of The Perfect Police State: An Undercover Odyssey Into China’s Terrifying Surveillance Dystopia of the Future, returns to The Realignment to discuss his recent Congressional testimony about the national security threat posed by TikTok, the state of U.S.-China tech relations, and how the U.S. government should approach the app, even if straight a ban isn't on the table.