Things we talked about:The difference between writing as a journalist and writing a book (it’s just so long!)But: you only get to publish your first book once! Accept the nerves, and appreciate the momentThe ever-present contention and push-back received when one writes about raceNatalie’s very wise words that reaction is the point of writing - and those reactions don’t have to be positive every timeThe value of the interviews in her book, and how she found and chose the right people to talk toSome of the stories and themes that came out of the interviews that surprised herThe unique experiences that people of mixed race have when they walk through the world, and the impact this has on identity, parenting, privilege, and the experience of racismParenting mixed race children (avoiding “colour-blindness” and those fetishised hashtags on social media)How white parents can open dialogues that empower their mixed race children to talk about racismThe value of social media in creating connections, sharing ideas, and giving voice to minorities who are not always heard on mainstream platformsBut on the flip side, the deeply disturbing fetishisation of mixed race people - particularly mixed babies - and “blackfishing” trends (changing your appearance through make-up and hair to appear as though you have black heritage)And Natalie’s rallying call to allies: “We need you to still care. We need that energy you had in the summer.”Where to find Natalie online:Natalie's book, Mixed/OtherNatalie is @nmozz on TwitterAnd also @nmozz on InstagramYou'll find her writing on metro.co.uk, in the lifestyle sectionAnd here's the Guardian article I mentioned, "Why celebrating mixed race beauty has its problematic side"Where to find Sara:The Insta Retreat - My tell-all, best selling course for Instagram creatives and business owners One to one business coaching with Sara TaskerSara’s website: meandorla.co.ukSara on Instagram: @me_and_orla