If you want to point your life in the direction you want, it often involves drastic changes. From coming up with a plan, shifting our saving philosophy and creating some new side hustles, our world got turned upside down in just a few months.   The Bernadette Joy Podcast: Crush This Debt is written, executive produced and hosted by Bernadette and AJ Maulion. The show is produced by Andy Goh, music by Harvey Cummings and artwork by Abigail Joy. Learn more at bernadettejoy.com/podcast.    We want to hear from you! Leave us a review! We also know that people have lots of experiences with debt, and few people talk about it. Help us break that taboo! Call us at 980.999.1283 and leave us a message with your debt story, or what our story meant to you. We’ll play those messages in a future episode, and hopefully we’ll make talking about money a little less difficult.