Ron has seen the CISO role emerge over as a senior executive at ISACA. Join us as Ron shares the necessity of the CISO getting out of the office and the types of forums that are most beneficial to the CISO, based upon his decades experience in enhancing the CISO profession. To view the article from the CISO COMPASS Book that sparked this interview, please visit: https://securityweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/CISOSTORIES_RonHale_ArticleV2.pdf Hale, R. 2019. The Positive Power of Community Engagement. In CISO COMPASS: Navigating Cybersecurity Leadership Challenges with Insights from Pioneers, 1st Ed, pgs. 270-1. Fitzgerald, T. CRC Press, Boca Raton, Fl. www.amazon.com/author/toddfitzgerald. Visit https://securityweekly.com/csp for all the latest episodes! Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/cyberleaders Follow us on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/cybersecuritycollaborative/ Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/csp84