Today we have Chris Leo. He was in Native Nod, a band referenced often as an originator of screamo. Then he went on to form The Van Pelt that is well loved and should be mentioned a lot more than they are when you talk about the history of emo. The Van Pelt have some reunion shows coming up and it was high time to have Chris on to chat. I even went to New Jersey for this! Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network.