Episode 56 is with co-creators Phil Matarese and Mike Luciano of the new HBO animated series Animals. It premieres February 5th, today or depending when you listen to this, it’s on demand. Phil and Mike happen to be huge fans of punk/hardcore/emo and took time out of their day in NYC to hang with me at the HBO offices and chat about the show and music. Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/washedupemo) Washed Up Emo is a partner of the Double Elvis podcast network.