Sam and Ryan chat about the pros and cons of using third-party services, focusing on how they affect your application’s testing strategy.Topics include:0:00 - Intro0:43 – If services don’t provide testing utils, you have to write library code just to test your app. What was the mocking story like for popular Rails services?11:59 – Adding seams to service integrations so they can be used locally, offline and in testing28:18 – How are people testing their service code today?48:02 – Mocking vs. end-to-end testingLinks:Stefan Penner’s tweet about how critical it is for services to making testing easy