In this is episode, Jec chats with Ali Kermeen about working equitation. It’s a relatively new discipline that’s open to riders of all disciplines and Ali has a new book about it. Find her Working Equitation book here.  If you’re thinking that working equitation sounds a bit like ranch versatility, you are correct although we’re not diving into the details in this episode. I hope you’re curious about it. In fact, I hope you’re curious in general! Jec and I have been talking about adult learning a lot lately and you might have noticed a slight tweak in our intro, about embracing a beginner’s mind. Yep. As it happens, I’m broadcasting this week from Santa Fe, New Mexico, where I’m taking a few lessons from Katrin Silva (who has an upcoming book coming out: Ride with Feel: A Guide for the Rest of Us). I’m excited and nervous as it’s been a long time since I’ve had lessons. We have a question specifically about adult learning from Natalie, a listener who was raised on the East Coast but now works on a ranch in Montana. So stay tuned for that. Our title sponsor is Lucerne Farms, producers of quality forage feeds.  And Lucerne is this fantastic company in northern Maine. We’ll be talking more about Lucerne in upcoming episodes. We also thank Skratch Labs. If you’re sweating, you should be staying hydrated with Skratch labs powdered drinks. So much healthier than gatorade or the shady rainbow collection of colored, sweet sports drinks out there. Oh and they have drinks for after a big workout, too. Like chocolate milk, but better. We thank Kate’s Real Food and Patagonia WorkWear for their continued support. Did you know? All ya gotta do is comment or suggest a podcast topic or send us a training question here and you’ll be automatically qualified for our monthly Patagonia WorkWear giveaway.