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On Being Dragged Down by Harmful Relationships (Epictetus – Discourses 4:2)

On Being Dragged Down by Harmful Relationships (Epictetus – Discourses 4:2)

FromThe Stoic Jew


On Being Dragged Down by Harmful Relationships (Epictetus – Discourses 4:2)

FromThe Stoic Jew

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Length:
10 minutes
Released:
Apr 28, 2021
Format:
Podcast episode

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Synopsis: In today’s episode we examine another example of a harsh truth taught by Epictetus in (what I deem to be) too harsh of a manner. The points he makes are compelling but he frames them in a way that risks alienating his audience with his absolutism. Are matters as black-and-white as he makes them seem? Is there a middle ground? And if there isn’t, is there another way he could craft his message to increase the chances that his listeners will implement it successfully, or is this really the only way? Most interesting to me is the question of whether this type of teaching – which we’ve seen before – is a stylistic quirk of Epictetus, or whether it is inherent in his brand of Stoicism.Sources: - Epictetus, Discourses 4:2- Musonius Rufus, quoting Theognis of Megara Lectures 11.53.21-22- Rambam: Mishneh Torah, Hilchos Deios 6:1- I Melachim 18:21----------If you have questions, comments, or feedback, I would love to hear from you! Please feel free to contact me at rabbischneeweiss at gmail.----------Stoic texts:The Meditations of Marcus AureliusLetters from a Stoic Master (Seneca)The Discourses of EpictetusThe Enchiridion (Handbook) of Epictetus----------Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/rabbischneeweissYouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/rabbischneeweissBlog: https://kolhaseridim.blogspot.com/Twitter: https://twitter.com/rmschneeweiss"The Mishlei Podcast": https://mishlei.buzzsprout.com"The Stoic Jew" Podcast: https://thestoicjew.buzzsprout.com"Rambam Bekius" Podcast: https://rambambekius.buzzsprout.com"Machshavah Lab" Podcast: https://machshavahlab.buzzsprout.com"The Tefilah Podcast": https://tefilah.buzzsprout.comSupport the show
Released:
Apr 28, 2021
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Podcast episode

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My name is Rabbi Matt Schneeweiss. I am, first and foremost, an Orthodox Jew. My primary area of focus is the teachings of Shlomo ha'Melech (King Solomon) in Mishlei (Proverbs) and Koheles (Ecclesiastes). I also consider myself to be a student of the Stoic masters: Epictetus, Seneca, and Marcus Aurelius. Over the past two decades I have been exploring the relationship between Judaism and Stoicism - where they overlap, where they differ, and how they complement each other. This year I started a daily reading of Marcus Aurelius with an aim to explore these questions. I'll read a passage from Aurelius's Meditations and then muse (or meditate aloud) on my thoughts about what he said and what the Torah would have to say. As Seneca taught: "Each day acquire something that will fortify you against poverty, against death, indeed against other misfortunes as well; and after you have run over many thoughts, select one to be thoroughly digested that day" (Letter #2). If this podcast serves that purpose, then it will have been of value.