This week on the podcast we chat with University of Iowa Law Professor Greg Shill.  We were invited to talk at Manny’s in the Mission in San Francisco by the Urban Environmentalists group, an affiliate club of YIMBY Action.  Greg chats with us mostly about his recent research and writing on the normalization of motordom and how we can’t really opt out of it, the idea of automobile supremacy, the legal subsidies to driving and even the tax benefits associated with cars.