I spoke with Matt Lewis (Chief Architect at DVLA and AWS Data Hero) and Chris Williams (Principal Cloud Engineer at DVLA) to talk about the state of Serverless adoption at DVLA. We talked about a range of topics, from serverless security, QLDB, cultural and organizational changes when one moves to serverless and why AWS needs to offer more opinionated advice to customers on when to use which service.You can find Matt on Twitter as @m_lewis and Chris as @chrilliams.Here is the NCSC report "Cloud Security made easier with Serverless"https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/blog-post/cloud-security-made-easier-with-serverlessThe best site for information about DVLA's cloud academy programme and other roles ishttps://www.49millionreasonsto.co.ukFor more stories about real-world use of serverless technologies, please follow us on Twitter as @RealWorldSls and subscribe to this podcast.Opening theme song:Cheery Monday by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3495-cheery-monday/License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/